Or Noir vs Venus De L'Amour
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
25%scent match
Clearly different
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Or Noir takes 6 of 7 categories.
Or NoirChoose it for a white floral and yellow floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Venus De L'AmourChoose it for a powdery and citrus character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Or Noir6/7
Venus De L'Amour1/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Or Noir
- Community sentiment
- Or Noir
- Longevity
- Or Noir
- Sillage & projection
- Or Noir
- Value for money
- Or Noir
- Versatility
- Or Noir
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Venus De L'Amour
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Or NoirPascal MorabitoVenus De L'AmourVicky TielWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.11/ 5 · 196 votes
Have 74%Had 26%Want 0%
3.83/ 5 · 35 votes
Have 26%Had 13%Want 61%
Category winnerOr NoirRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate44%Love
38%Like
4%Ok
13%Dislike
1%Hate
196 votes
29%Love
51%Like
3%Ok
9%Dislike
9%Hate
35 votes
Category winnerOr NoirMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityOr Noir
SillageOr Noir
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerOr NoirBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothwhite floral100%
yellow floral92%
woody84%
green77%
earthy69%
mossy61%
powdery100%
citrus92%
warm spicy84%
fresh spicy77%
yellow floral69%
amber61%
Scent match25%Clearly different · both yellow floral
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
AldehydesCassisBergamotTangerine
Heart
NarcissusJasmineMay RoseLily-of-the-ValleyGardeniaIris
Base
oak mossYlang-YlangClovePatchouliVanilleMusk
Top
BergamotMandarin OrangeAldehydesPeach
Heart
Ylang-YlangCloveMimosaIrisJasmineNutmegCorianderLily-of-the-Valley
Base
HeliotropeMuskBenzoinMyrhhPatchouli
InformationalShared notesAldehydes, Bergamot, Jasmine and Lily-of-the-Valley. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring56
Summer42
Fall100
Winter88
Day91
Night100
Spring89
Summer33
Fall100
Winter56
Day100
Night40
Category winnerOr NoirMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#28,004
PerfumerSébastien Martin
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#23,248
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews10
Category winnerVenus De L'AmourHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotOr Noir opens with a piercing burst of aldehydes, crisp bergamot, and tart cassis that feels sharp and cool against the skin. Within twenty minutes, the bright top notes give way to a heavy, waxy floral heart dominated by narcissus, May rose, and gardenia. Indolic jasmine adds depth, while iris provides a soft powdery…
Reviews →Vicky Tiel Venus De L'Amour is an oriental spicy fragrance for women that blends sharp, bright opening notes with a dense, resinous dry-down. It opens with bitter mandarin orange, bergamot, and heavy aldehydes, before settling into a warm floral heart of ylang-ylang and clove. Perfect for cooler transitional spring da…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Or Noir or Venus De L'Amour?
Or Noir takes 6 of 7 categories. Or Noir is rated 4.11/5 from 196 votes; Venus De L'Amour is rated 3.83/5 from 35 votes. Choose Or Noir for a white floral and yellow floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Venus De L'Amour for a powdery and citrus character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, Or Noir or Venus De L'Amour?
Or Noir lasts longest (Or Noir 72/100, Venus De L'Amour 64/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Or Noir or Venus De L'Amour?
Or Noir projects furthest (Or Noir 71/100, Venus De L'Amour 44/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Or Noir and Venus De L'Amour smell similar?
Clearly different: a 25% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share yellow floral accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Bergamot, Jasmine and Lily-of-the-Valley.
Is Or Noir or Venus De L'Amour better for summer or winter?
For summer, Or Noir is the stronger pick. For winter, Or Noir is the stronger pick. Or Noir suits evening wear; Venus De L'Amour suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Or Noir and Venus De L'Amour?
Or Noir has top notes of Aldehydes, Cassis, Bergamot and Tangerine, heart notes of Narcissus, Jasmine, May Rose and Lily-of-the-Valley, a base of oak moss, Ylang-Ylang, Clove and Patchouli. Venus De L'Amour has top notes of Bergamot, Mandarin Orange, Aldehydes and Peach, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Clove, Mimosa and Iris, a base of Heliotrope, Musk, Benzoin and Myrhh.
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