Oriental Sans Souci vs Creation 1984
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
36%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Creation 1984 takes 4 of 7 categories.
Oriental Sans SouciChoose it for a citrus and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Creation 1984Choose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
Oriental Sans Souci3/7
Creation 19844/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Oriental Sans Souci
- Community sentiment
- Oriental Sans Souci
- Longevity
- Creation 1984
- Sillage & projection
- Creation 1984
- Value for money
- Creation 1984
- Versatility
- Oriental Sans Souci
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Creation 1984
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Oriental Sans SouciLe Jardin RetrouveCreation 1984Ted LapidusWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.25/ 5 · 96 votes
Have 40%Had 9%Want 51%
3.87/ 5 · 1,170 votes
Have 50%Had 50%Want 0%
Category winnerOriental Sans SouciRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate57%Love
20%Like
15%Ok
7%Dislike
1%Hate
96 votes
28%Love
51%Like
2%Ok
18%Dislike
1%Hate
1,170 votes
Category winnerOriental Sans SouciMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityCreation 1984
SillageCreation 1984
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerCreation 1984Best value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothcitrus100%
woody92%
aromatic84%
patchouli77%
fresh spicy69%
vanilla61%
woody100%
green92%
aromatic84%
earthy77%
white floral69%
mossy61%
Scent match36%Some overlap · both woody and aromatic
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop15 to 30 minutes
BergamotLemonBasil
Heart2 to 4 hours
RoseYlang-YlangVanillaNeroliJasmine
Base5 to 8 hours
PatchouliOakmossTonka BeanAmbergris
Top
GalbanumMangoBlack CurrantPassionfruitPeachBergamotNeroliLemon
Heart
NarcissusCarnationTuberoseYlang-YlangOrrisGardeniaLily-of-the-ValleyJasmine
Base
OakmossVetiverSandalwoodPatchouliAmberMuskVanilla
InformationalShared notesBergamot, Lemon, Ylang-Ylang and Vanilla. Durations are only published for Oriental Sans Souci, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring71
Summer26
Fall100
Winter100
Day100
Night80
Spring84
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerOriental Sans SouciMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#8,492
PerfumerYuri Gutsatz
Launched—
Reviews17
Overall rank#2,628
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews55
Category winnerCreation 1984Higher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotOriental Sans Souci by Le Jardin Retrouve opens with an energetic splash of sharp lemon, bergamot, and herbal basil that feels brisk and bright. That initial citrus sparkle quickly settles into an opulent heart of jasmine, creamy ylang-ylang, and sweet vanilla. Underneath, earthy patchouli, oakmoss, and ambergris buil…
Reviews →Creation 1984 by Ted Lapidus is a powerhouse chypre that clashes bitter galbanum with sweet mango. This vintage classic targets collectors who appreciate green oakmoss and complex, sunny floral blends. It projects a nostalgic, self-assured aura, perfect for cool spring days when you want a fragrance that cuts through …
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Oriental Sans Souci or Creation 1984?
Creation 1984 takes 4 of 7 categories. Oriental Sans Souci is rated 4.25/5 from 96 votes; Creation 1984 is rated 3.87/5 from 1,170 votes. Choose Oriental Sans Souci for a citrus and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and versatility. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Creation 1984 for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
Which lasts longer, Oriental Sans Souci or Creation 1984?
Creation 1984 lasts longest (Creation 1984 80/100, Oriental Sans Souci 70/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Oriental Sans Souci or Creation 1984?
Creation 1984 projects furthest (Creation 1984 73/100, Oriental Sans Souci 52/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Oriental Sans Souci and Creation 1984 smell similar?
Some overlap: a 36% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and aromatic accords. Common notes include Bergamot, Lemon, Ylang-Ylang and Vanilla.
Is Oriental Sans Souci or Creation 1984 better for summer or winter?
For summer, Oriental Sans Souci is the stronger pick. For winter, Oriental Sans Souci is the stronger pick. Oriental Sans Souci suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Oriental Sans Souci and Creation 1984?
Oriental Sans Souci has top notes of Bergamot, Lemon and Basil, heart notes of Rose, Ylang-Ylang, Vanilla and Neroli, a base of Patchouli, Oakmoss, Tonka Bean and Ambergris. Creation 1984 has top notes of Galbanum, Mango, Black Currant and Passionfruit, heart notes of Narcissus, Carnation, Tuberose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Oakmoss, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Patchouli.
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