Fragrance comparison

Orphic vs Red Velvet No.4

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 32 ratings analysed

Orphic

Oakcha

4.1527 votes

Rank #42,541 AmberWarm Spicy

Full profile Similar & dupes

47%scent match

Some overlap

4 wins

Red Velvet No.4

Twist · 2022

5.005 votes

Rank #19,608 WoodyMossy

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Red Velvet No.4 takes 4 of 4 categories.

Orphic
Choose it for a amber and warm spicy character. Best in fall, evening wear.
Red Velvet No.4
Choose it for a woody and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Orphic0/4

Red Velvet No.44/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Red Velvet No.4
Sillage & projection: Red Velvet No.4
Value for money: Red Velvet No.4
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Red Velvet No.4

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

OrphicOakcha

Red Velvet No.4Twist

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.15/ 5 · 27 votes

Have 66%Had 7%Want 27%

5.00/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 33%Had 0%Want 67%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

30%Love

59%Like

7%Ok

4%Dislike

0%Hate

27 votes

100%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity67

〰 Sillage58

♥ Love / hate79

⏱ Longevity77

〰 Sillage83

♥ Love / hate100

Category winners

LongevityRed Velvet No.4

SillageRed Velvet No.4

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value83

¤ Price value96

Category winnerRed Velvet No.4Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

amber100%

warm spicy92%

citrus84%

animalic77%

balsamic69%

fresh spicy61%

woody100%

mossy92%

warm spicy84%

earthy77%

fresh spicy69%

amber61%

Scent match47%Some overlap · both warm spicy, amber and fresh spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

SaffronOrangeMarigoldJasmine

Heart

AmbroxanEvernyl

Base

AmbergrisFirCedarwood

Top15-30 mins

Saffron

Heart2-4 hrs

Jasmine

Base6-8+ hrs

oak mossFirAmbergrisCedarwood

InformationalShared notesSaffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Fir. Durations are only published for Red Velvet No.4, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring42

Summer42

Fall100

Winter92

Day83

Night100

Spring100

Summer100

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night85

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men6

Unisex44

Women50

Men0

Unisex67

Women33

Date 30%Casual 26%Party 23%Work 21%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#42,541

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#19,608

PerfumerNot listed

Launched2022

Reviews6

Category winnerRed Velvet No.4Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Orphic by Oakcha delivers a rich, warm cloud of spun sugar, warm saffron spice, and crisp cedarwood. Inspired by the famous red crystal extrait, this fragrance opens with a burst of zesty orange and sweet marigold flowers before settling into creamy jasmine petals and salty ambergris warmth. It gives you that sought-a…

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Red Velvet No.4 by Twist opens with a sharp flash of solvent before unleashing a warm cloud of red saffron and spun sugar. The sweetness feels shockingly airy. It floats on skin rather than sticking like thick syrup. Within twenty minutes, breezy jasmine petals take over the midsection, softening the dry spice with cl…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Orphic or Red Velvet No.4?

Red Velvet No.4 takes 4 of 4 categories. Orphic is rated 4.15/5 from 27 votes; Red Velvet No.4 is rated 5.00/5 from 5 votes. Choose Orphic for a amber and warm spicy character. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Red Velvet No.4 for a woody and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Orphic or Red Velvet No.4?

Red Velvet No.4 lasts longest (Red Velvet No.4 77/100, Orphic 67/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Orphic or Red Velvet No.4?

Red Velvet No.4 projects furthest (Red Velvet No.4 83/100, Orphic 58/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Orphic and Red Velvet No.4 smell similar?

Some overlap: a 47% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy, amber and fresh spicy accords. Common notes include Saffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Fir.

Is Orphic or Red Velvet No.4 better for summer or winter?

Orphic suits evening wear; Red Velvet No.4 suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Orphic and Red Velvet No.4?

Orphic has top notes of Saffron, Orange, Marigold and Jasmine, heart notes of Ambroxan and Evernyl, a base of Ambergris, Fir and Cedarwood. Red Velvet No.4 has top notes of Saffron, heart notes of Jasmine, a base of oak moss, Fir, Ambergris and Cedarwood.