Fragrance comparison

Pierre de Velay No. 23 vs Valaya

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 22 Oct 2026 4,845 ratings analysed

4 wins

Pierre de Velay No. 23

Roja Dove

4.1138 votes

Rank #15,274 AmberWoody

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34%scent match

Clearly different

Valaya

Parfums de Marly

3.904,807 votes

Rank #3,325 MuskyCitrus

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 4 of 7 categories.

Pierre de Velay No. 23
Choose it for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear.
Valaya
Choose it for a musky and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Pierre de Velay No. 234/7

Valaya3/7

Ratings & consensus: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Community sentiment: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Longevity: Valaya
Sillage & projection: Valaya
Value for money: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Versatility: Pierre de Velay No. 23
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Valaya

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Pierre de Velay No. 23Roja Dove

ValayaParfums de Marly

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.11/ 5 · 38 votes

Have 35%Had 11%Want 54%

3.90/ 5 · 4,807 votes

Have 88%Had 12%Want 0%

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Rating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

53%Love

24%Like

8%Ok

13%Dislike

3%Hate

38 votes

45%Love

24%Like

14%Ok

11%Dislike

6%Hate

4,807 votes

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity75

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate78

⏱ Longevity76

〰 Sillage63

♥ Love / hate73

Category winners

LongevityValaya

SillageValaya

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value38

¤ Price value26

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

amber100%

woody92%

animalic84%

musky77%

powdery69%

white floral61%

musky100%

citrus92%

white floral84%

fresh77%

aldehydic69%

powdery61%

Scent match34%Clearly different · both musky, white floral and powdery

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

AldehydesBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart

Ylang-YlangJasmineVioletRose de MaiOrange Blossom

Base

AmbergrisCivetLabdanumLeatherMuskCedarOakmossTobacco

Top15-30 mins

AldehydesWhite PeachBergamotMandarin Orange

Heart2-4 hrs

Orange BlossomLily-of-the-ValleyPetaliaNympheal™VetiverMahonia

Base8-12 hrs

MuskAmbroxanAkigalawoodVanilla

InformationalShared notesAldehydes, Bergamot, Mandarin Orange and Orange Blossom. Durations are only published for Valaya, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer31

Fall100

Winter77

Day83

Night100

Spring100

Summer90

Fall0

Winter36

Day100

Night32

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 23Most year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men11

Unisex68

Women21

Men2

Unisex12

Women86

Work 38%Casual 33%Date 18%Party 11%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#15,274

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews8

Overall rank#3,325

PerfumerQuentin Bisch

Launched—

Reviews208

Category winnerValayaHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Pierre de Velay No. 23 opens with bright aldehydes and soft citrus, then quickly settles into a powdery floral heart of ylang-ylang, jasmine, violet, rose and orange blossom. The real twist is underneath, where amber, leather, tobacco and animalic notes give it a darker, more intimate edge. It suits someone who enjoys…

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Parfums de Marly Valaya reimagines clean laundry as high-end luxury. The first spray releases a brisk flash of aldehydes, bright mandarin orange, and fuzzy white peach. It feels crisp. The initial mist carries a slight sting of perfumer alcohol, but that evaporates within two minutes. Soon, orange blossom and dewy lil…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Pierre de Velay No. 23 or Valaya?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 takes 4 of 7 categories. Pierre de Velay No. 23 is rated 4.11/5 from 38 votes; Valaya is rated 3.90/5 from 4,807 votes. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 23 for a amber and woody character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and value for money. Best in spring, evening wear. Choose Valaya for a musky and citrus character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Pierre de Velay No. 23 or Valaya?

They last about the same: Valaya 76/100, Pierre de Velay No. 23 75/100 for longevity in community votes.

Which projects more, Pierre de Velay No. 23 or Valaya?

Projection is very close: Valaya 63/100, Pierre de Velay No. 23 61/100 for sillage.

Do Pierre de Velay No. 23 and Valaya smell similar?

Clearly different: a 34% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share musky, white floral and powdery accords. Common notes include Aldehydes, Bergamot, Mandarin Orange and Orange Blossom.

Is Pierre de Velay No. 23 or Valaya better for summer or winter?

For summer, Valaya is the stronger pick. For winter, Pierre de Velay No. 23 is the stronger pick. Pierre de Velay No. 23 suits evening wear; Valaya suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Pierre de Velay No. 23 and Valaya?

Pierre de Velay No. 23 has top notes of Aldehydes, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Ylang-Ylang, Jasmine, Violet and Rose de Mai, a base of Ambergris, Civet, Labdanum and Leather. Valaya has top notes of Aldehydes, White Peach, Bergamot and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Orange Blossom, Lily-of-the-Valley, Petalia and Nympheal™, a base of Musk, Ambroxan, Akigalawood and Vanilla.