Fragrance comparison

Pierre de Velay No. 4 vs London

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 23 Oct 2026 241 ratings analysed

Pierre de Velay No. 4

Roja Dove

4.2941 votes

Rank #14,304 Warm SpicyAromatic

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67%scent match

Closely related

6 wins

London

Roja Dove

4.25200 votes

Rank #2,867 Warm SpicyAmber

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

London takes 6 of 7 categories.

Pierre de Velay No. 4
Choose it for a warm spicy and aromatic character. Wins on versatility. Best in fall, evening wear.
London
Choose it for a warm spicy and amber character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.

Pierre de Velay No. 41/7

London6/7

Ratings & consensus: London
Community sentiment: London
Longevity: London
Sillage & projection: London
Value for money: London
Versatility: Pierre de Velay No. 4
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: London

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Pierre de Velay No. 4Roja Dove

LondonRoja Dove

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.29/ 5 · 41 votes

Have 35%Had 10%Want 54%

4.25/ 5 · 200 votes

Have 28%Had 9%Want 63%

Category winnerLondonRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

59%Love

27%Like

2%Ok

10%Dislike

2%Hate

41 votes

65%Love

23%Like

5%Ok

5%Dislike

4%Hate

110 votes

Category winnerLondonMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity72

〰 Sillage66

♥ Love / hate82

⏱ Longevity81

〰 Sillage70

♥ Love / hate84

Category winners

LongevityLondon

SillageLondon

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value35

¤ Price value45

Category winnerLondonBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

warm spicy100%

aromatic92%

amber84%

woody77%

fresh spicy69%

vanilla61%

warm spicy100%

amber92%

aromatic84%

woody77%

balsamic69%

vanilla61%

Scent match67%Closely related · both warm spicy, aromatic and amber

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Bay LeafSageBergamot

Heart

Rose de MaiGrasse Rose

Base

RumCardamomSandalwoodBenzoinVanillaLabdanumMusk

Top

LavenderSageBergamotOregano

Heart

LabdanumMay Rose

Base

BenzoinIncenseCypressCloveVanillaCardamomSandalwoodCoriander

InformationalShared notesSage, Bergamot, Cardamom and Sandalwood. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring59

Summer27

Fall100

Winter91

Day50

Night100

Spring29

Summer15

Fall100

Winter91

Day68

Night100

Category winnerPierre de Velay No. 4Most year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men76

Unisex19

Women5

Men52

Unisex40

Women8

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#14,304

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews6

Overall rank#2,867

PerfumerRoja Dove

Launched—

Reviews29

Category winnerLondonHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Pierre de Velay No. 4 wears like an aromatic amber built around rum, bay leaf and sage rather than syrupy sweetness. It opens brisk and herbal, then settles into cardamom, creamy sandalwood, vanilla and labdanum, with the boozy note still clearly present. This usually suits someone who likes warm, textured, slightly m…

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Roja Dove London opens as a smooth, resin-rich amber with labdanum front and centre, then settles into a softer mix of herbs, spice, incense and gentle sweetness. It wears polished rather than loud. This suits someone who enjoys warm, refined amber fragrances with a leathery, slightly smoky edge. It makes the most sen…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Pierre de Velay No. 4 or London?

London takes 6 of 7 categories. Pierre de Velay No. 4 is rated 4.29/5 from 41 votes; London is rated 4.25/5 from 200 votes. Choose Pierre de Velay No. 4 for a warm spicy and aromatic character. Wins on versatility. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose London for a warm spicy and amber character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Pierre de Velay No. 4 or London?

London lasts longest (London 81/100, Pierre de Velay No. 4 72/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Pierre de Velay No. 4 or London?

London projects furthest (London 70/100, Pierre de Velay No. 4 66/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Pierre de Velay No. 4 and London smell similar?

Closely related: a 67% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy, aromatic and amber accords. Common notes include Sage, Bergamot, Cardamom and Sandalwood.

Is Pierre de Velay No. 4 or London better for summer or winter?

For summer, Pierre de Velay No. 4 is the stronger pick. For winter, Pierre de Velay No. 4 is the stronger pick. Pierre de Velay No. 4 suits evening wear; London suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Pierre de Velay No. 4 and London?

Pierre de Velay No. 4 has top notes of Bay Leaf, Sage and Bergamot, heart notes of Rose de Mai and Grasse Rose, a base of Rum, Cardamom, Sandalwood and Benzoin. London has top notes of Lavender, Sage, Bergamot and Oregano, heart notes of Labdanum and May Rose, a base of Benzoin, Incense, Cypress and Clove.