Fragrance comparison

Pivoine vs Forum Woman

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 29 Oct 2026 67 ratings analysed

4 wins

Pivoine

Manos Gerakinis

4.0852 votes

Rank #15,730 FloralFresh

Full profile Similar & dupes

19%scent match

Clearly different

Forum Woman

Tufi Duek

3.5315 votes

Rank #59,694 AmberPowdery

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Pivoine takes 4 of 5 categories.

Pivoine
Choose it for a floral and fresh character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear.
Forum Woman
Choose it for a amber and powdery character. Wins on value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Pivoine4/5

Forum Woman1/5

Ratings & consensus: Pivoine
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Pivoine
Sillage & projection: Pivoine
Value for money: Forum Woman
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Pivoine

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

PivoineManos Gerakinis

Forum WomanTufi Duek

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.08/ 5 · 52 votes

Have 28%Had 7%Want 65%

3.53/ 5 · 15 votes

Have 32%Had 38%Want 30%

Category winnerPivoineRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

33%Love

52%Like

8%Ok

6%Dislike

2%Hate

52 votes

0%Love

73%Like

7%Ok

20%Dislike

0%Hate

15 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity66

〰 Sillage60

♥ Love / hate77

⏱ Longevity64

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate63

Category winners

LongevityPivoine

SillagePivoine

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value50

¤ Price value63

Category winnerForum WomanBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

floral100%

fresh83%

rose65%

fruity48%

white floral30%

amber100%

powdery92%

woody84%

vanilla77%

sweet69%

floral61%

Scent match19%Clearly different · both floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Red Apple

Heart2-4 hrs

PeonyRoseJasmineCarnation

Base6-8+ hrs

Suede

Top

BergamotRed ApplePeachFreesiaGalbanumMarigold

Heart

RoseBlack IrisVioletJasmineCarnationLily-of-the-ValleyVetiver

Base

Crystal AmberCashmere WoodTonka BeanCaramelVanillaSandalwoodMuskPatchouli

InformationalShared notesRed Apple, Rose, Jasmine and Carnation. Durations are only published for Pivoine, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer78

Fall57

Winter13

Day100

Night33

Spring100

Summer83

Fall83

Winter50

Day100

Night63

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men4

Unisex29

Women68

Work 36%Casual 32%Date 23%Party 9%

Men0

Unisex33

Women67

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#15,730

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews6

Overall rank#59,694

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerPivoineHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Manos Gerakinis Pivoine delivers a refreshing take on pink florals by skipping heavy syrupy sugars in favor of crisp orchard brightness. The opening crackles with chilled red apple slices before settling into a breezy bouquet of fresh peony, tender rose, and sweet jasmine. While many peony-centered scents dissolve int…

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Tufi Duek Forum Woman opens with a bright burst of crisp red apple, green galbanum, and bergamot before settling into a dense floral heart. Black iris and violet lend a dry, powdery texture that cuts through the initial sweetness of peach and freesia. As the top notes fade, warm crystal amber and smooth sandalwood anc…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Pivoine or Forum Woman?

Pivoine takes 4 of 5 categories. Pivoine is rated 4.08/5 from 52 votes; Forum Woman is rated 3.53/5 from 15 votes. Choose Pivoine for a floral and fresh character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in spring, daytime wear. Choose Forum Woman for a amber and powdery character. Wins on value for money. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Pivoine or Forum Woman?

They last about the same: Pivoine 66/100, Forum Woman 64/100 for longevity in community votes.

Which projects more, Pivoine or Forum Woman?

Pivoine projects furthest (Pivoine 60/100, Forum Woman 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Pivoine and Forum Woman smell similar?

Clearly different: a 19% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share floral accords. Common notes include Red Apple, Rose, Jasmine and Carnation.

Is Pivoine or Forum Woman better for summer or winter?

Pivoine suits daytime wear; Forum Woman suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Pivoine and Forum Woman?

Pivoine has top notes of Red Apple, heart notes of Peony, Rose, Jasmine and Carnation, a base of Suede. Forum Woman has top notes of Bergamot, Red Apple, Peach and Freesia, heart notes of Rose, Black Iris, Violet and Jasmine, a base of Crystal Amber, Cashmere Wood, Tonka Bean and Caramel.