Fragrance comparison

Poivre vs Black Suede

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 9 Oct 2026 718 ratings analysed

5 wins

Poivre

Caron

4.03158 votes

Rank #11,148 Warm SpicyFloral

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37%scent match

Some overlap

Black Suede

Avon

3.88560 votes

Rank #24,391 MuskyAmber

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Poivre takes 5 of 7 categories.

Poivre
Choose it for a warm spicy and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in winter, evening wear.
Black Suede
Choose it for a musky and amber character. Wins on community sentiment and value for money. Best in winter.

Poivre5/7

Black Suede2/7

Ratings & consensus: Poivre
Community sentiment: Black Suede
Longevity: Poivre
Sillage & projection: Poivre
Value for money: Black Suede
Versatility: Poivre
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Poivre

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

PoivreCaron

Black SuedeAvon

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.03/ 5 · 158 votes

Have 75%Had 25%Want 0%

3.88/ 5 · 560 votes

Have 63%Had 37%Want 0%

Category winnerPoivreRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

42%Love

37%Like

1%Ok

20%Dislike

0%Hate

158 votes

26%Love

51%Like

8%Ok

12%Dislike

2%Hate

560 votes

Category winnerBlack SuedeMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity68

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate76

⏱ Longevity62

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate72

Category winners

LongevityPoivre

SillagePoivre

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value46

¤ Price value88

Category winnerBlack SuedeBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

warm spicy100%

floral83%

fresh spicy65%

woody48%

aromatic30%

musky100%

amber92%

powdery84%

woody77%

warm spicy69%

fresh spicy61%

Scent match37%Some overlap · both warm spicy, fresh spicy and woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top20-30 mins

CloveCarnationPepperSpicesRed Pepper

Heart3-4 hrs

ClovesFloral NotesGeraniumRoseJasmineYlang-YlangTuberose

Base7-10 hrs

OakmossOpoponaxSandalwoodWoodsy NotesVetiver

Top

NutmegAldehydesCarnationCorianderGreen NotesBergamot

Heart

CloveOrrisLeatherVetiverRoseLavenderHeliotropeThyme

Base

MuskAmberWoodsy NotesOakmossCivetSuedeOpoponaxAnise

InformationalShared notesClove, Carnation, Rose and Oakmoss. Durations are only published for Poivre, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring20

Summer18

Fall73

Winter100

Day56

Night100

Spring42

Summer25

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerPoivreMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men8

Unisex62

Women31

Date 40%Party 27%Casual 20%Work 13%

Men84

Unisex12

Women5

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#11,148

PerfumerMichel Morsetti

Launched—

Reviews23

Overall rank#24,391

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerPoivreHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Poivre by Caron is not your typical vintage floral. It hits your skin with a fiery rush of crushed black pepper and pungent clove. The heat is immediate. Behind that initial crackle lies a velvety heart of spicy carnation, deep red rose, and creamy ylang-ylang. As the fiery spices relax, earthy oakmoss and smoky opopo…

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Avon Black Suede opens with a sharp burst of soapy aldehydes, spicy nutmeg, and crisp carnation. Within fifteen minutes, the initial brightness settles into a darker heart of warm clove, aromatic lavender, and herbal thyme. The dry down hugs the skin with powdery amber, mossy oakmoss, and soft suede musk. It sits warm…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Poivre or Black Suede?

Poivre takes 5 of 7 categories. Poivre is rated 4.03/5 from 158 votes; Black Suede is rated 3.88/5 from 560 votes. Choose Poivre for a warm spicy and floral character. Wins on ratings & consensus, longevity and sillage & projection. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Black Suede for a musky and amber character. Wins on community sentiment and value for money. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, Poivre or Black Suede?

Poivre lasts longest (Poivre 68/100, Black Suede 62/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Poivre or Black Suede?

Poivre projects furthest (Poivre 65/100, Black Suede 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Poivre and Black Suede smell similar?

Some overlap: a 37% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy, fresh spicy and woody accords. Common notes include Clove, Carnation, Rose and Oakmoss.

Is Poivre or Black Suede better for summer or winter?

For summer, Black Suede is the stronger pick. For winter, Poivre is the stronger pick. Poivre suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Poivre and Black Suede?

Poivre has top notes of Clove, Carnation, Pepper and Spices, heart notes of Cloves, Floral Notes, Geranium and Rose, a base of Oakmoss, Opoponax, Sandalwood and Woodsy Notes. Black Suede has top notes of Nutmeg, Aldehydes, Carnation and Coriander, heart notes of Clove, Orris, Leather and Vetiver, a base of Musk, Amber, Woodsy Notes and Oakmoss.