Fragrance comparison

Rose Noir vs Sal

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 23 Oct 2026 1,704 ratings analysed

3 wins

Rose Noir

Byredo

3.761,696 votes

Rank #2,227 RoseMossy

Full profile Similar & dupes

18%scent match

Clearly different

Sal

Venezia 1600

4.008 votes

Rank #55,807 MarineAromatic

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Rose Noir takes 3 of 4 categories.

Rose Noir
Choose it for a rose and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring.
Sal
Choose it for a marine and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.

Rose Noir3/4

Sal1/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Rose Noir
Sillage & projection: Rose Noir
Value for money: Sal
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Rose Noir

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Rose NoirByredo

SalVenezia 1600

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.76/ 5 · 1,696 votes

Have 68%Had 32%Want 0%

4.00/ 5 · 8 votes

Have 37%Had 8%Want 55%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

33%Love

40%Like

9%Ok

16%Dislike

2%Hate

1,455 votes

38%Love

38%Like

13%Ok

13%Dislike

0%Hate

8 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity69

〰 Sillage61

♥ Love / hate72

⏱ Longevity64

〰 Sillage46

♥ Love / hate75

Category winners

LongevityRose Noir

SillageRose Noir

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value35

¤ Price value63

Category winnerSalBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

rose100%

mossy91%

floral83%

musky74%

earthy65%

citrus56%

marine100%

aromatic90%

musky80%

white floral70%

amber60%

salty50%

Scent match18%Clearly different · both musky

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

GrapefruitFreesiaRed BerriesCardamom

Heart

Damask RoseLily-of-the-ValleyRaspberryJasmineViolet

Base

MossMuskLabdanumPatchouli

Top20-30 mins

Sea NotesFreesiaCardamom

Heart2-4 hrs

Red AlgaeLilyLily-of-the-ValleyNarcissus

Base6-8 hrs

White MuskWhite AmberAnisePatchouli

InformationalShared notesFreesia, Cardamom, Lily-of-the-Valley and Patchouli. Durations are only published for Sal, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer0

Fall0

Winter77

Day–

Night–

Spring75

Summer100

Fall13

Winter0

Day100

Night41

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men3

Unisex40

Women57

Men13

Unisex25

Women63

Casual 42%Work 31%Date 17%Party 11%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#2,227

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews196

Overall rank#55,807

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerRose NoirHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Rose Noir is a moody, unisex floral that moves beyond typical garden scents. It opens with a sharp burst of grapefruit and cardamom before settling into a deep, earthy Damask rose. Perfect for cool autumn evenings, this fragrance offers a sophisticated, slightly gothic profile for those who find traditional rose scent…

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The opening blast of Sal by Venezia 1600 smells like stepping onto a sunlit Venetian dock at low tide. A briny wash of cold sea notes rushes forward, sharpened by a snap of green cardamom and crystalline freesia. You get immediate salt air. As the initial vapor burns away, damp red algae and crisp lily emerge to give …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Rose Noir or Sal?

Rose Noir takes 3 of 4 categories. Rose Noir is rated 3.76/5 from 1,696 votes; Sal is rated 4.00/5 from 8 votes. Choose Rose Noir for a rose and mossy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring. Choose Sal for a marine and aromatic character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.

Which lasts longer, Rose Noir or Sal?

Rose Noir lasts longest (Rose Noir 69/100, Sal 64/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Rose Noir or Sal?

Rose Noir projects furthest (Rose Noir 61/100, Sal 46/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Rose Noir and Sal smell similar?

Clearly different: a 18% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share musky accords. Common notes include Freesia, Cardamom, Lily-of-the-Valley and Patchouli.

Is Rose Noir or Sal better for summer or winter?

Sal suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Rose Noir and Sal?

Rose Noir has top notes of Grapefruit, Freesia, Red Berries and Cardamom, heart notes of Damask Rose, Lily-of-the-Valley, Raspberry and Jasmine, a base of Moss, Musk, Labdanum and Patchouli. Sal has top notes of Sea Notes, Freesia and Cardamom, heart notes of Red Algae, Lily, Lily-of-the-Valley and Narcissus, a base of White Musk, White Amber, Anise and Patchouli.