Rose Poetique vs Surrender
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
27%scent match
Clearly different
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Surrender takes 5 of 7 categories.
Rose PoetiqueChoose it for a rose and fruity character. Wins on versatility and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
SurrenderChoose it for a amber and musky character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Rose Poetique2/7
Surrender5/7
- Ratings & consensus
- Surrender
- Community sentiment
- Surrender
- Longevity
- Surrender
- Sillage & projection
- Surrender
- Value for money
- Surrender
- Versatility
- Rose Poetique
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Rose Poetique
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Rose PoetiqueManos GerakinisSurrenderAvonWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.33/ 5 · 70 votes
Have 28%Had 11%Want 60%
4.38/ 5 · 699 votes
Have 41%Had 41%Want 17%
Category winnerSurrenderRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate54%Love
31%Like
10%Ok
1%Dislike
3%Hate
70 votes
50%Love
42%Like
4%Ok
4%Dislike
0%Hate
76 votes
Category winnerSurrenderMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevitySurrender
SillageSurrender
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerSurrenderBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothrose100%
fruity92%
woody84%
sweet77%
warm spicy69%
musky61%
amber100%
musky77%
warm spicy38%
powdery30%
Scent match27%Clearly different · both musky and warm spicy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop15-30 mins
SaffronRhubarb
Heart2-4 hrs
Damask RoseRaspberryLabdanumPatchouli
Base6-8+ hrs
Cashmere WoodSandalwoodMuskVanilla
Top
Italian MandarinSicilian BergamotChinese Tea
Heart
Cashmere WoodExotic floral notesDamask Rose
Base
AmberPatchouliMusk
InformationalShared notesDamask Rose, Patchouli, Cashmere Wood and Musk. Durations are only published for Rose Poetique, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring70
Summer33
Fall100
Winter82
Day100
Night80
Spring59
Summer25
Fall100
Winter91
Day71
Night100
Category winnerRose PoetiqueMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#12,554
PerfumerJean-Francois Thizon
Launched—
Reviews10
Overall rank#25,829
PerfumerJean-Louis Grauby
Launched2004
Reviews0
Category winnerRose PoetiqueHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotManos Gerakinis Rose Poetique opens with a tart crunch of rhubarb and warm saffron. It catches your attention immediately. Within ten minutes, juicy raspberry rolls over velvet Damask rose petals, avoiding the stuffy potpourri trap entirely. A warm base of labdanum, clean patchouli, and soft cashmere wood gives the fl…
Reviews →Avon Surrender opens with a crisp spray of Italian mandarin and dry Chinese tea before settling into a heart of damask rose and cashmere wood. The base rests on warm amber and earthy patchouli. It fits cold autumn evenings when you want cozy depth without heavy gourmand sweetness.
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Rose Poetique or Surrender?
Surrender takes 5 of 7 categories. Rose Poetique is rated 4.33/5 from 70 votes; Surrender is rated 4.38/5 from 699 votes. Choose Rose Poetique for a rose and fruity character. Wins on versatility and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear. Choose Surrender for a amber and musky character. Wins on ratings & consensus, community sentiment and longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Which lasts longer, Rose Poetique or Surrender?
They last about the same: Surrender 72/100, Rose Poetique 70/100 for longevity in community votes.
Which projects more, Rose Poetique or Surrender?
Projection is very close: Surrender 67/100, Rose Poetique 65/100 for sillage.
Do Rose Poetique and Surrender smell similar?
Clearly different: a 27% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share musky and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Damask Rose, Patchouli, Cashmere Wood and Musk.
Is Rose Poetique or Surrender better for summer or winter?
For summer, Rose Poetique is the stronger pick. For winter, Surrender is the stronger pick. Rose Poetique suits daytime wear; Surrender suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Rose Poetique and Surrender?
Rose Poetique has top notes of Saffron and Rhubarb, heart notes of Damask Rose, Raspberry, Labdanum and Patchouli, a base of Cashmere Wood, Sandalwood, Musk and Vanilla. Surrender has top notes of Italian Mandarin, Sicilian Bergamot and Chinese Tea, heart notes of Cashmere Wood, Exotic floral notes and Damask Rose, a base of Amber, Patchouli and Musk.
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