Fragrance comparison

Rouge Veil No. 13 vs №4 by Phoenix

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 5 ratings analysed

Rouge Veil No. 13

The Clone

—0 votes

Rank #78,603 WoodyAmber

Full profile Similar & dupes

82%scent match

Very similar

1 wins

№4 by Phoenix

Milton Lloyd

4.205 votes

Rank #55,841 WoodyAmber

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

№4 by Phoenix takes 1 of 1 categories.

Rouge Veil No. 13
Choose it for a woody and amber character.
№4 by Phoenix
Choose it for a woody and amber character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, evening wear.

Rouge Veil No. 130/1

№4 by Phoenix1/1

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Not scored
Sillage & projection: Not scored
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: №4 by Phoenix

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Rouge Veil No. 13The Clone

№4 by PhoenixMilton Lloyd

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

—/ 5 · 0 votes

Have 33%Had 33%Want 33%

4.20/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 64%Had 18%Want 18%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

Not enough votes yet

60%Love

0%Like

40%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ LongevityN/A

〰 SillageN/A

♥ Love / hateN/A

⏱ Longevity72

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate80

Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillageNo data

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value80

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

amber91%

warm spicy83%

white floral74%

aromatic65%

fresh spicy56%

woody100%

amber92%

warm spicy84%

white floral77%

mossy69%

earthy61%

Scent match82%Very similar · both woody, amber and warm spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

SaffronJasmine

Heart

AmbergrisAmberwood

Base

Fir ResinCedar

Top

SaffronJasmine

Heart

AmbergrisAmberwood

Base

Fir ResinOakmossCedar

InformationalShared notesSaffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Amberwood. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

No season votes yet

Spring75

Summer75

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Not enough votes yet

Men20

Unisex60

Women20

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#78,603

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#55,841

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winner№4 by PhoenixHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Rouge Veil No. 13 by The Clone is an intense oriental spicy fragrance that thrives on a unique saffron and jasmine opening. This unisex scent settles into a warm ambergris and amberwood heart, grounded by earthy cedar and fir resin. It is a versatile choice for those who enjoy woody compositions that lean resinous and…

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Milton Lloyd's №4 by Phoenix greets you with a sharp, medicinal burst of saffron and a very brief, clean jasmine note. Within minutes, the scent pivots toward a warm, synthetic amberwood structure that replicates the airy, sweet-salty aura of high-end ambergris perfumes. It clings to the skin with a resinous warmth, b…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Do Rouge Veil No. 13 and №4 by Phoenix smell similar?

Very similar: a 82% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, amber and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Saffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Amberwood.

Is Rouge Veil No. 13 or №4 by Phoenix better for summer or winter?

№4 by Phoenix suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Rouge Veil No. 13 and №4 by Phoenix?

Rouge Veil No. 13 has top notes of Saffron and Jasmine, heart notes of Ambergris and Amberwood, a base of Fir Resin and Cedar. №4 by Phoenix has top notes of Saffron and Jasmine, heart notes of Ambergris and Amberwood, a base of Fir Resin, Oakmoss and Cedar.