Sombre Douceur vs Unforgivable Women
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
40%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Unforgivable Women takes 4 of 5 categories.
Sombre DouceurChoose it for a iris and amber character. Wins on longevity. Best in fall, evening wear.
Unforgivable WomenChoose it for a woody and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
Sombre Douceur1/5
Unforgivable Women4/5
- Ratings & consensus
- Unforgivable Women
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Sombre Douceur
- Sillage & projection
- Unforgivable Women
- Value for money
- Unforgivable Women
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Unforgivable Women
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Sombre DouceurElysianUnforgivable WomenSean JohnWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split3.69/ 5 · 13 votes
Have 23%Had 5%Want 72%
3.79/ 5 · 677 votes
Have 58%Had 42%Want 0%
Category winnerUnforgivable WomenRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate15%Love
46%Like
31%Ok
8%Dislike
0%Hate
13 votes · too few to score
30%Love
44%Like
3%Ok
23%Dislike
1%Hate
677 votes
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevitySombre Douceur
SillageUnforgivable Women
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerUnforgivable WomenBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothiris100%
amber92%
woody84%
powdery77%
fruity69%
violet61%
woody100%
powdery92%
fruity84%
citrus77%
earthy69%
fresh61%
Scent match40%Some overlap · both woody, powdery and fruity
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop30 to 45 minutes
FigPink GrapefruitBlack CurrantNeroliApple
Heart2 to 3 hours
IrisJasmine SambacBlack PepperFreesiaOrchid
Base4 to 6 hours
Siam BenzoinBlack TeaAmberwoodVanillaCedar
Top
PearBitter OrangeAppleCassiaGrapefruitNeroliBergamot
Heart
JasmineFreesiaOrange BlossomVioletRoseCyclamenLily-of-the-Valley
Base
SandalwoodPatchouliIrisTonka BeanCedarVanillaAmberOakmoss
InformationalShared notesNeroli, Apple, Iris and Freesia. Durations are only published for Sombre Douceur, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring50
Summer25
Fall100
Winter75
Day75
Night100
Spring88
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#25,230
PerfumerJessi Park
Launched—
Reviews5
Overall rank#3,035
PerfumerDavid Apel
Launched—
Reviews146
Category winnerUnforgivable WomenHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotSombre Douceur by Elysian is an oriental floral fragrance built around a pairing of ripe fruit, powdery florals, and dark woods. It opens with juicy fig, tart black currant, and bright pink grapefruit, lifted by a touch of neroli and crisp apple. The heart shifts toward dry iris, velvety jasmine sambac, and a prickle …
Reviews →Unforgivable Women by Sean John is a complex, woody, and powdery floral fragrance released in 2007. It centers on an intricate layering of pear, bitter orange, and neroli over a deep base of sandalwood and amber. This versatile scent performs well during the transition from summer to autumn, offering a balanced, non-s…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Sombre Douceur or Unforgivable Women?
Unforgivable Women takes 4 of 5 categories. Sombre Douceur is rated 3.69/5 from 13 votes; Unforgivable Women is rated 3.79/5 from 677 votes. Choose Sombre Douceur for a iris and amber character. Wins on longevity. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Unforgivable Women for a woody and powdery character. Wins on ratings & consensus, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.
Which lasts longer, Sombre Douceur or Unforgivable Women?
They last about the same: Sombre Douceur 64/100, Unforgivable Women 62/100 for longevity in community votes.
Which projects more, Sombre Douceur or Unforgivable Women?
Projection is very close: Unforgivable Women 59/100, Sombre Douceur 58/100 for sillage.
Do Sombre Douceur and Unforgivable Women smell similar?
Some overlap: a 40% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, powdery and fruity accords. Common notes include Neroli, Apple, Iris and Freesia.
Is Sombre Douceur or Unforgivable Women better for summer or winter?
Sombre Douceur suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Sombre Douceur and Unforgivable Women?
Sombre Douceur has top notes of Fig, Pink Grapefruit, Black Currant and Neroli, heart notes of Iris, Jasmine Sambac, Black Pepper and Freesia, a base of Siam Benzoin, Black Tea, Amberwood and Vanilla. Unforgivable Women has top notes of Pear, Bitter Orange, Apple and Cassia, heart notes of Jasmine, Freesia, Orange Blossom and Violet, a base of Sandalwood, Patchouli, Iris and Tonka Bean.
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