Fragrance comparison

Surhomme Noir vs Vetiver Oriental

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 24 Oct 2026 1,456 ratings analysed

Surhomme Noir

Parfums de Nietzsche

3.577 votes

Rank #55,634 IrisEarthy

Full profile Similar & dupes

44%scent match

Some overlap

3 wins

Vetiver Oriental

Serge Lutens

4.111,449 votes

Rank #25,525 WoodyEarthy

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Vetiver Oriental takes 3 of 4 categories.

Surhomme Noir
Choose it for a iris and earthy character. Wins on longevity. Best in winter, evening wear.
Vetiver Oriental
Choose it for a woody and earthy character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring.

Surhomme Noir1/4

Vetiver Oriental3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Surhomme Noir
Sillage & projection: Vetiver Oriental
Value for money: Vetiver Oriental
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Vetiver Oriental

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Surhomme NoirParfums de Nietzsche

Vetiver OrientalSerge Lutens

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.57/ 5 · 7 votes

Have 13%Had 2%Want 85%

4.11/ 5 · 1,449 votes

Have 75%Had 25%Want 0%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

43%Love

29%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

29%Hate

7 votes · too few to score

40%Love

42%Like

9%Ok

9%Dislike

1%Hate

1,449 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity68

〰 Sillage48

♥ Love / hate64

⏱ Longevity64

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate78

Category winners

LongevitySurhomme Noir

SillageVetiver Oriental

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value33

¤ Price value47

Category winnerVetiver OrientalBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

iris100%

earthy92%

powdery84%

woody77%

violet69%

leather61%

woody100%

earthy91%

amber83%

powdery74%

aromatic65%

mossy56%

Scent match44%Some overlap · both earthy, woody and powdery

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Notes

Black IrisDark ChocolateLeatherVetiverAmberPatchouli

No top / heart / base split published

Notes

VetiverDark ChocolateAmberOakmossIrisGuaiac WoodSandalwoodLabdanumMusk

No top / heart / base split published

InformationalShared notesDark Chocolate, Vetiver and Amber. Durations are only published for Surhomme Noir, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring33

Summer0

Fall67

Winter100

Day32

Night100

Spring100

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men33

Unisex50

Women17

Date 41%Party 31%Casual 15%Work 13%

Men35

Unisex60

Women5

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#55,634

PerfumerCarlos Benaïm

Launched—

Reviews1

Overall rank#25,525

PerfumerChristopher Sheldrake

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerVetiver OrientalHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Surhomme Noir by Parfums de Nietzsche takes a bold, shadowed approach to modern leather. The first three minutes hit with a sharp solvent lift before settling into dense, bitter dark chocolate and dry black iris. It feels thick on the skin. Earthy patchouli and vetiver soon emerge beneath the floral powder, grounding …

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Vetiver Oriental swaps the sharp, grassy notes of standard vetiver for a smooth woody juice warmed by dark chocolate and amber. Christopher Sheldrake wraps the root in cold iris and smoky guaiac wood, creating a quiet scent that behaves like an upscale wool sweater. It works best on damp autumn afternoons when you wan…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Surhomme Noir or Vetiver Oriental?

Vetiver Oriental takes 3 of 4 categories. Surhomme Noir is rated 3.57/5 from 7 votes; Vetiver Oriental is rated 4.11/5 from 1,449 votes. Choose Surhomme Noir for a iris and earthy character. Wins on longevity. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Vetiver Oriental for a woody and earthy character. Wins on sillage & projection, value for money and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring.

Which lasts longer, Surhomme Noir or Vetiver Oriental?

Surhomme Noir lasts longest (Surhomme Noir 68/100, Vetiver Oriental 64/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Surhomme Noir or Vetiver Oriental?

Vetiver Oriental projects furthest (Vetiver Oriental 55/100, Surhomme Noir 48/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Surhomme Noir and Vetiver Oriental smell similar?

Some overlap: a 44% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share earthy, woody and powdery accords. Common notes include Dark Chocolate, Vetiver and Amber.

Is Surhomme Noir or Vetiver Oriental better for summer or winter?

Surhomme Noir suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Surhomme Noir and Vetiver Oriental?

Surhomme Noir features Black Iris, Dark Chocolate, Leather, Vetiver and Amber. Vetiver Oriental features Vetiver, Dark Chocolate, Amber, Oakmoss and Iris.