Fragrance comparison

Thebes Grade 1 vs Vénitienne Flower

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 30 Oct 2026 93 ratings analysed

1 wins

Thebes Grade 1

Sultan Pasha Attars

4.1392 votes

Rank #5,663 White FloralAnimalic

Full profile Similar & dupes

28%scent match

Clearly different

Vénitienne Flower

Gris Montaigne Paris

5.001 votes

Rank #48,705 IrisRose

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Thebes Grade 1 takes 1 of 1 categories.

Thebes Grade 1
Choose it for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, evening wear.
Vénitienne Flower
Choose it for a iris and rose character. Best in spring.

Thebes Grade 11/1

Vénitienne Flower0/1

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Not scored
Sillage & projection: Not scored
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Thebes Grade 1

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Thebes Grade 1Sultan Pasha Attars

Vénitienne FlowerGris Montaigne Paris

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.13/ 5 · 92 votes

Have 41%Had 7%Want 52%

5.00/ 5 · 1 votes

Have 0%Had 0%Want 100%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

59%Love

18%Like

8%Ok

15%Dislike

0%Hate

66 votes

100%Love

0%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

1 vote · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity78

〰 Sillage68

♥ Love / hate82

⏱ LongevityN/A

〰 SillageN/A

♥ Love / hate100

Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillageNo data

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value64

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

white floral100%

animalic92%

earthy84%

woody77%

iris69%

fresh61%

iris100%

rose91%

vanilla83%

powdery74%

violet65%

woody56%

Scent match28%Clearly different · both iris and woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Lily-of-the-ValleyRoseAldehydesBergamot

Heart

IrisBulgarian RoseJasmineMusk

Base

VetiverAnimal notesAmbergrisAmber

Top30 to 45 minutes

ManukaBergamot

Heart2 to 4 hours

IrisBulgarian RoseWhite Musk

Base3 to 5 hours

VanillaWoody NotesAmbergris

InformationalShared notesBulgarian Rose, Bergamot, Iris and Ambergris. Durations are only published for Vénitienne Flower, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring88

Summer29

Fall100

Winter88

Day80

Night100

Spring100

Summer0

Fall0

Winter0

Day–

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men25

Unisex63

Women13

Not enough votes yet

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#5,663

PerfumerSultan Pasha

Launched—

Reviews32

Overall rank#48,705

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerThebes Grade 1Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Thebes Grade 1 by Sultan Pasha Attars is a somber, meditative floral composition for those who appreciate the intersection of animalic depth and powdery iris. It features lily-of-the-valley, iris, and a challenging vetiver base, making it a distinct choice for cooler weather. This unisex attar requires patience, rewar…

Reviews →

Vénitienne Flower by Gris Montaigne Paris delivers a balanced floral profile built around powdery iris, Bulgarian rose, and sweet vanilla. It opens with bright bergamot paired with the herbal, honeyed warmth of manuka. The fragrance moves quickly into an elegant floral core, where cosmetic iris meets dewy rose petals …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Thebes Grade 1 or Vénitienne Flower?

Thebes Grade 1 takes 1 of 1 categories. Thebes Grade 1 is rated 4.13/5 from 92 votes; Vénitienne Flower is rated 5.00/5 from 1 votes. Choose Thebes Grade 1 for a white floral and animalic character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Vénitienne Flower for a iris and rose character. Best in spring.

Do Thebes Grade 1 and Vénitienne Flower smell similar?

Clearly different: a 28% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share iris and woody accords. Common notes include Bulgarian Rose, Bergamot, Iris and Ambergris.

Is Thebes Grade 1 or Vénitienne Flower better for summer or winter?

Thebes Grade 1 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Thebes Grade 1 and Vénitienne Flower?

Thebes Grade 1 has top notes of Lily-of-the-Valley, Rose, Aldehydes and Bergamot, heart notes of Iris, Bulgarian Rose, Jasmine and Musk, a base of Vetiver, Animal notes, Ambergris and Amber. Vénitienne Flower has top notes of Manuka and Bergamot, heart notes of Iris, Bulgarian Rose and White Musk, a base of Vanilla, Woody Notes and Ambergris.