Fragrance comparison

Things We Never Shared vs Velvet Orchid

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 14 Nov 2026 8,911 ratings analysed

Things We Never Shared

Toskovat'

3.60278 votes

Rank #6,904 SweetFruity

Full profile Similar & dupes

29%scent match

Clearly different

Velvet Orchid

Tom Ford

4.038,633 votes

Rank #44,675 FloralSweet

Full profile Similar & dupes

Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1.

Things We Never Shared
Choose it for a sweet and fruity character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Velvet Orchid
Choose it for a floral and sweet character. Wins on ratings & consensus.

Things We Never Shared1/2

Velvet Orchid1/2

Ratings & consensus: Velvet Orchid
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Not scored
Sillage & projection: Not scored
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Things We Never Shared

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Things We Never SharedToskovat'

Velvet OrchidTom Ford

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

3.60/ 5 · 278 votes

Have 82%Had 18%Want 0%

4.03/ 5 · 8,633 votes

Category winnerVelvet OrchidRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

39%Love

27%Like

10%Ok

7%Dislike

16%Hate

229 votes

Not enough votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity77

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate67

⏱ LongevityN/A

〰 SillageN/A

♥ Love / hateN/A

Category winners

LongevityNo data

SillageNo data

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value43

¤ Price valueN/A

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

sweet100%

fruity86%

cacao72%

warm spicy58%

woody44%

honey30%

floral100%

sweet92%

powdery84%

amber77%

woody69%

vanilla61%

Scent match29%Clearly different · both sweet and woody

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

Mulled WineAdvocaatMandarin OrangeNarcissusHyacinth

Heart

PlumPanettonePoisonSacher TorteHoneyMacaronsCroissantCandied Almond

Base

CacaoHand CreamMilkToffeeTobaccoBalsam FirMyrrhSandalwood

Top

RumHoneyMandarin OrangeBergamot

Heart

Black OrchidOrchidJasmineHeliotropeHyacinthRose OilNarcissusMagnolia

Base

VanillaMyrrhSuedeSandalwoodPeru BalsamLabdanum

InformationalShared notesMandarin Orange, Narcissus, Hyacinth and Honey. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring29

Summer8

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

No season votes yet

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men12

Unisex62

Women26

Not enough votes yet

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#6,904

PerfumerDavid-Lev Jipa-Slivinschi

Launched—

Reviews68

Overall rank#44,675

PerfumerAntoine Maisondieu, Calice Becker, Shyamala Maisondieu, Yann Vasnier

Launched—

Reviews0

Category winnerThings We Never SharedHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Things We Never Shared by Toskovat' is an aromatic fragrance that captures the essence of a winter holiday market. It opens with boozy mulled wine and Advocaat, evolving into a complex heart of plum and pastry notes like Panettone and croissants. This unique gourmand composition works best on skin during cold, crisp w…

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Tom Ford Velvet Orchid opens with a boozy splash of rum and thick, dripping honey, immediately establishing a dark, sweet character. As it warms on the skin, a heavy floral core of black orchid and jasmin takes over, shifting the initial sweetness into a dense, velvety texture. Sandalwood, vanilla, and a resinous myrr…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

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Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Things We Never Shared or Velvet Orchid?

No clear winner: the 2 categories split 1–1. Things We Never Shared is rated 3.60/5 from 278 votes; Velvet Orchid is rated 4.03/5 from 8,633 votes. Choose Things We Never Shared for a sweet and fruity character. Wins on fragranxe ranking. Best in winter. Choose Velvet Orchid for a floral and sweet character. Wins on ratings & consensus.

Do Things We Never Shared and Velvet Orchid smell similar?

Clearly different: a 29% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share sweet and woody accords. Common notes include Mandarin Orange, Narcissus, Hyacinth and Honey.

What are the notes in Things We Never Shared and Velvet Orchid?

Things We Never Shared has top notes of Mulled Wine, Advocaat, Mandarin Orange and Narcissus, heart notes of Plum, Panettone, Poison and Sacher Torte, a base of Cacao, Hand Cream, Milk and Toffee. Velvet Orchid has top notes of Rum, Honey, Mandarin Orange and Bergamot, heart notes of Black Orchid, Orchid, Jasmine and Heliotrope, a base of Vanilla, Myrrh, Suede and Sandalwood.