Fragrance comparison

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses vs Giardino Segreto

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 18 Oct 2026 40 ratings analysed

4 wins

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses

Les Indemodables

4.3438 votes

Rank #13,319 LeatherWarm Spicy

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41%scent match

Some overlap

Giardino Segreto

Paolo Gigli

4.502 votes

Rank #45,005 SweetWarm Spicy

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses takes 4 of 5 categories.

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses
Choose it for a leather and warm spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and note pyramid duration. Best in winter, evening wear.
Giardino Segreto
Choose it for a sweet and warm spicy character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter, evening wear.

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses4/5

Giardino Segreto1/5

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses
Sillage & projection: Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses
Value for money: Giardino Segreto
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses
Fragranxe ranking: Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Vanille Havane Cuir des AbyssesLes Indemodables

Giardino SegretoPaolo Gigli

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.34/ 5 · 38 votes

Have 15%Had 1%Want 85%

4.50/ 5 · 2 votes

Have 8%Had 4%Want 88%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

68%Love

18%Like

3%Ok

0%Dislike

11%Hate

38 votes

50%Love

50%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

2 votes · too few to score

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity77

〰 Sillage64

♥ Love / hate84

⏱ Longevity40

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hate88

Category winners

LongevityVanille Havane Cuir des Abysses

SillageVanille Havane Cuir des Abysses

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value20

¤ Price value50

Category winnerGiardino SegretoBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

leather100%

warm spicy92%

sweet84%

animalic77%

cacao69%

vanilla61%

sweet100%

warm spicy92%

soft spicy84%

amber77%

anis69%

vanilla61%

Scent match41%Some overlap · both warm spicy, sweet and vanilla

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top20-30 mins

SpicesRumDried Fruits

Heart3-5 hrs

VanillaTobaccoCacaoFloral Notes

Base8-12+ hrs

Russian LeatherBirch TarWoody NotesAmberAnimal notes

Top15-30 mins

CorianderCinnamonTobaccoGinger

Heart2-4 hrs

AniseVanillaCloveCacao

Base6-8+ hrs

Sweet NotesDried FruitsBenzoinAmber

Category winnerVanille Havane Cuir des AbyssesLongest dry-down: 8-12+ hrs

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring32

Summer11

Fall79

Winter100

Day24

Night100

Spring0

Summer0

Fall50

Winter100

Day57

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men48

Unisex48

Women5

Date 40%Party 30%Casual 20%Work 10%

Men50

Unisex0

Women50

Date 39%Casual 27%Work 19%Party 16%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#13,319

PerfumerAntoine Lie

Launched—

Reviews6

Overall rank#45,005

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Category winnerVanille Havane Cuir des AbyssesHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses takes the rich, boozy core of the original Vanille Havane and plunges it into dark, smoky Russian leather. The first spray brings a warm rush of dark rum, dried raisins, and culinary spices that quickly settles into bitter cacao nibs and rich bourbon vanilla. Deep underneath, heavy birc…

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Giardino Segreto by Paolo Gigli opens with hot culinary spices that warm up immediately on skin. You smell grated cinnamon and dry coriander right away. A thick burst of sweet tobacco and fresh ginger follows within seconds. As the opening heat settles, creamy vanilla, bitter cacao, and licorice-like anise round out t…

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses or Giardino Segreto?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses takes 4 of 5 categories. Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses is rated 4.34/5 from 38 votes; Giardino Segreto is rated 4.50/5 from 2 votes. Choose Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses for a leather and warm spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and note pyramid duration. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Giardino Segreto for a sweet and warm spicy character. Wins on value for money. Best in winter, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses or Giardino Segreto?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses lasts longest (Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses 77/100, Giardino Segreto 40/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses or Giardino Segreto?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses projects furthest (Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses 64/100, Giardino Segreto 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses and Giardino Segreto smell similar?

Some overlap: a 41% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share warm spicy, sweet and vanilla accords. Common notes include Dried Fruits, Vanilla, Tobacco and Cacao.

Is Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses or Giardino Segreto better for summer or winter?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses suits evening wear; Giardino Segreto suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses and Giardino Segreto?

Vanille Havane Cuir des Abysses has top notes of Spices, Rum and Dried Fruits, heart notes of Vanilla, Tobacco, Cacao and Floral Notes, a base of Russian Leather, Birch Tar, Woody Notes and Amber. Giardino Segreto has top notes of Coriander, Cinnamon, Tobacco and Ginger, heart notes of Anise, Vanilla, Clove and Cacao, a base of Sweet Notes, Dried Fruits, Benzoin and Amber.