Fragrance comparison

Varens Secret 1 vs Creation 1984

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 25 Oct 2026 1,174 ratings analysed

Varens Secret 1

Ulric de Varens

4.504 votes

Rank #54,160 White FloralAmber

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31%scent match

Clearly different

4 wins

Creation 1984

Ted Lapidus

3.871,170 votes

Rank #2,529 WoodyGreen

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Creation 1984 takes 4 of 4 categories.

Varens Secret 1
Choose it for a white floral and amber character. Best in fall, evening wear.
Creation 1984
Choose it for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.

Varens Secret 10/4

Creation 19844/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Creation 1984
Sillage & projection: Creation 1984
Value for money: Creation 1984
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Creation 1984

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Varens Secret 1Ulric de Varens

Creation 1984Ted Lapidus

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.50/ 5 · 4 votes

Have 22%Had 17%Want 61%

3.87/ 5 · 1,170 votes

Have 50%Had 50%Want 0%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

50%Love

50%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

4 votes · too few to score

28%Love

51%Like

2%Ok

18%Dislike

1%Hate

1,170 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity60

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate88

⏱ Longevity80

〰 Sillage73

♥ Love / hate72

Category winners

LongevityCreation 1984

SillageCreation 1984

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value63

¤ Price value64

Category winnerCreation 1984Best value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

white floral100%

amber92%

warm spicy84%

woody77%

patchouli69%

balsamic61%

woody100%

green92%

aromatic84%

earthy77%

white floral69%

mossy61%

Scent match31%Clearly different · both woody and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top15-30 mins

Mandarin OrangePeachBlack Pepper

Heart2-4 hrs

JasmineGardeniaIncense

Base6-8 hrs

AmberPatchouliSandalwood

Top

GalbanumMangoBlack CurrantPassionfruitPeachBergamotNeroliLemon

Heart

NarcissusCarnationTuberoseYlang-YlangOrrisGardeniaLily-of-the-ValleyJasmine

Base

OakmossVetiverSandalwoodPatchouliAmberMuskVanilla

InformationalShared notesPeach, Jasmine, Gardenia and Amber. Durations are only published for Varens Secret 1, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring0

Summer25

Fall100

Winter100

Day37

Night100

Spring84

Summer0

Fall0

Winter100

Day–

Night–

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men0

Unisex0

Women100

Date 36%Party 27%Casual 22%Work 16%

Men2

Unisex29

Women69

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#54,160

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#2,529

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews55

Category winnerCreation 1984Higher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Ulric de Varens Varens Secret 1 starts with a noticeable crackle of black pepper over juicy peach and bright mandarin orange. It smells sweet, spicy, and immediately warm. Within twenty minutes, the initial fruitiness softens as creamy white gardenia and jasmine take over, wrapped in a gentle ribbon of smoky incense. …

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Creation 1984 by Ted Lapidus is a powerhouse chypre that clashes bitter galbanum with sweet mango. This vintage classic targets collectors who appreciate green oakmoss and complex, sunny floral blends. It projects a nostalgic, self-assured aura, perfect for cool spring days when you want a fragrance that cuts through …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, Varens Secret 1 or Creation 1984?

Creation 1984 takes 4 of 4 categories. Varens Secret 1 is rated 4.50/5 from 4 votes; Creation 1984 is rated 3.87/5 from 1,170 votes. Choose Varens Secret 1 for a white floral and amber character. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Creation 1984 for a woody and green character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and value for money. Best in winter.

Which lasts longer, Varens Secret 1 or Creation 1984?

Creation 1984 lasts longest (Creation 1984 80/100, Varens Secret 1 60/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Varens Secret 1 or Creation 1984?

Creation 1984 projects furthest (Creation 1984 73/100, Varens Secret 1 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Varens Secret 1 and Creation 1984 smell similar?

Clearly different: a 31% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody and white floral accords. Common notes include Peach, Jasmine, Gardenia and Amber.

Is Varens Secret 1 or Creation 1984 better for summer or winter?

Varens Secret 1 suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Varens Secret 1 and Creation 1984?

Varens Secret 1 has top notes of Mandarin Orange, Peach and Black Pepper, heart notes of Jasmine, Gardenia and Incense, a base of Amber, Patchouli and Sandalwood. Creation 1984 has top notes of Galbanum, Mango, Black Currant and Passionfruit, heart notes of Narcissus, Carnation, Tuberose and Ylang-Ylang, a base of Oakmoss, Vetiver, Sandalwood and Patchouli.