Victory vs Sinner (2017)
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
39%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Sinner (2017) takes 3 of 5 categories.
VictoryChoose it for a vanilla and cinnamon character. Wins on ratings & consensus and value for money. Best in winter, evening wear.
Sinner (2017)Choose it for a white floral and patchouli character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Victory2/5
Sinner (2017)3/5
- Ratings & consensus
- Victory
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Sinner (2017)
- Sillage & projection
- Sinner (2017)
- Value for money
- Victory
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Sinner (2017)
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
VictoryPhytodermSinner (2017)Kat Von DWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.09/ 5 · 11 votes
Have 38%Had 43%Want 19%
3.74/ 5 · 990 votes
Have 74%Had 26%Want 0%
Category winnerVictoryRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate45%Love
36%Like
9%Ok
0%Dislike
9%Hate
11 votes · too few to score
27%Love
41%Like
12%Ok
17%Dislike
3%Hate
990 votes
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevitySinner (2017)
SillageSinner (2017)
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerVictoryBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothvanilla100%
cinnamon92%
warm spicy84%
white floral77%
green69%
aromatic61%
white floral100%
patchouli92%
fruity84%
warm spicy77%
woody69%
sweet61%
Scent match39%Some overlap · both white floral and warm spicy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop
MintMandarin Orange
Heart
CinnamonOrange Blossom
Base
VanillaPatchouli
Top
PlumOrange BlossomMandarin Orange
Heart
CinnamonWhite FlowersJasmine
Base
PatchouliVanillaMuskVetiver
InformationalShared notesMandarin Orange, Cinnamon, Orange Blossom and Vanilla. Note durations are not published for these fragrances, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring71
Summer29
Fall43
Winter100
Day43
Night100
Spring22
Summer0
Fall0
Winter100
Day–
Night–
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#53,885
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Overall rank#31,501
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews0
Category winnerSinner (2017)Higher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotVictory by Phytoderm opens with a sharp, refreshing blast of mint and mandarin orange, quickly mellowing into a warm, spicy heart of cinnamon and orange blossom. This aromatic fougere for men settles into a grounding base of sweet vanilla and earthy patchouli. It is a versatile choice for cool autumn evenings or crisp…
Reviews →Kat Von D Sinner (2017) opens with a dark plum note backed by a sharp mandarin orange brightness. As it settles on skin, a warm cinnamon spice takes over, blending with white flowers to create a dense, slightly sweet floral heart. The dry-down relies on a heavy dose of patchouli and vanilla, giving it a gothic, earthy…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Victory or Sinner (2017)?
Sinner (2017) takes 3 of 5 categories. Victory is rated 4.09/5 from 11 votes; Sinner (2017) is rated 3.74/5 from 990 votes. Choose Victory for a vanilla and cinnamon character. Wins on ratings & consensus and value for money. Best in winter, evening wear. Choose Sinner (2017) for a white floral and patchouli character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in winter.
Which lasts longer, Victory or Sinner (2017)?
Sinner (2017) lasts longest (Sinner (2017) 56/100, Victory 51/100), based on community performance votes.
Which projects more, Victory or Sinner (2017)?
Sinner (2017) projects furthest (Sinner (2017) 54/100, Victory 39/100), based on community performance votes.
Do Victory and Sinner (2017) smell similar?
Some overlap: a 39% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share white floral and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Mandarin Orange, Cinnamon, Orange Blossom and Vanilla.
Is Victory or Sinner (2017) better for summer or winter?
Victory suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Victory and Sinner (2017)?
Victory has top notes of Mint and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Cinnamon and Orange Blossom, a base of Vanilla and Patchouli. Sinner (2017) has top notes of Plum, Orange Blossom and Mandarin Orange, heart notes of Cinnamon, White Flowers and Jasmine, a base of Patchouli, Vanilla, Musk and Vetiver.
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