Fragrance comparison

№4 by Phoenix vs Lelas Eclat de Lelas

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 19 Oct 2026 33 ratings analysed

№4 by Phoenix

Milton Lloyd

4.205 votes

Rank #50,939 WoodyAmber

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68%scent match

Closely related

3 wins

Lelas Eclat de Lelas

LELAS

4.2928 votes

Rank #24,396 WoodyAmber

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Lelas Eclat de Lelas takes 3 of 4 categories.

№4 by Phoenix
Choose it for a woody and amber character. Wins on value for money. Best in fall, evening wear.
Lelas Eclat de Lelas
Choose it for a woody and amber character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, evening wear.

№4 by Phoenix1/4

Lelas Eclat de Lelas3/4

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Lelas Eclat de Lelas
Sillage & projection: Lelas Eclat de Lelas
Value for money: №4 by Phoenix
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Lelas Eclat de Lelas

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

№4 by PhoenixMilton Lloyd

Lelas Eclat de LelasLELAS

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

4.20/ 5 · 5 votes

Have 64%Had 18%Want 18%

4.29/ 5 · 28 votes

Have 51%Had 14%Want 35%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

60%Love

0%Like

40%Ok

0%Dislike

0%Hate

5 votes · too few to score

61%Love

29%Like

0%Ok

0%Dislike

11%Hate

28 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity72

〰 Sillage55

♥ Love / hate80

⏱ Longevity78

〰 Sillage71

♥ Love / hate82

Category winners

LongevityLelas Eclat de Lelas

SillageLelas Eclat de Lelas

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price value80

¤ Price value78

Category winner№4 by PhoenixBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

amber92%

warm spicy84%

white floral77%

mossy69%

earthy61%

woody100%

amber88%

fresh spicy77%

aromatic65%

warm spicy53%

conifer42%

Scent match68%Closely related · both woody, amber and warm spicy

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

SaffronJasmine

Heart

AmbergrisAmberwood

Base

Fir ResinOakmossCedar

Top15-30 mins

Egyptian JasmineSaffronSpanish Jasmine

Heart2-4 hrs

AmberwoodAmbergris

Base8-12 hrs

Fir ResinCedar

InformationalShared notesSaffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Amberwood. Durations are only published for Lelas Eclat de Lelas, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring75

Summer75

Fall100

Winter100

Day75

Night100

Spring83

Summer50

Fall100

Winter83

Day57

Night100

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Men20

Unisex60

Women20

Men15

Unisex52

Women33

Date 35%Party 28%Casual 23%Work 15%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#50,939

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews0

Overall rank#24,396

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews3

Category winnerLelas Eclat de LelasHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Milton Lloyd's №4 by Phoenix greets you with a sharp, medicinal burst of saffron and a very brief, clean jasmine note. Within minutes, the scent pivots toward a warm, synthetic amberwood structure that replicates the airy, sweet-salty aura of high-end ambergris perfumes. It clings to the skin with a resinous warmth, b…

Reviews →

Lelas Eclat de Lelas is a dense, woody amber perfume built around medicinal saffron, Egyptian jasmine, and sticky fir resin. The opening hits with sharp floral sweetness and a warm metallic snap. Do not overspray this. Within twenty minutes, the initial solvent punch gives way to salty ambergris and thick amberwood th…

Reviews →

InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which is better, №4 by Phoenix or Lelas Eclat de Lelas?

Lelas Eclat de Lelas takes 3 of 4 categories. №4 by Phoenix is rated 4.20/5 from 5 votes; Lelas Eclat de Lelas is rated 4.29/5 from 28 votes. Choose №4 by Phoenix for a woody and amber character. Wins on value for money. Best in fall, evening wear. Choose Lelas Eclat de Lelas for a woody and amber character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, evening wear.

Which lasts longer, №4 by Phoenix or Lelas Eclat de Lelas?

Lelas Eclat de Lelas lasts longest (Lelas Eclat de Lelas 78/100, №4 by Phoenix 72/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, №4 by Phoenix or Lelas Eclat de Lelas?

Lelas Eclat de Lelas projects furthest (Lelas Eclat de Lelas 71/100, №4 by Phoenix 55/100), based on community performance votes.

Do №4 by Phoenix and Lelas Eclat de Lelas smell similar?

Closely related: a 68% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, amber and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Saffron, Jasmine, Ambergris and Amberwood.

Is №4 by Phoenix or Lelas Eclat de Lelas better for summer or winter?

№4 by Phoenix suits evening wear; Lelas Eclat de Lelas suits evening wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in №4 by Phoenix and Lelas Eclat de Lelas?

№4 by Phoenix has top notes of Saffron and Jasmine, heart notes of Ambergris and Amberwood, a base of Fir Resin, Oakmoss and Cedar. Lelas Eclat de Lelas has top notes of Egyptian Jasmine, Saffron and Spanish Jasmine, heart notes of Amberwood and Ambergris, a base of Fir Resin and Cedar.