Fragrance comparison

Black Orris vs Lumière de Venise

Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.

Updated 21 Oct 2026 83 ratings analysed

Black Orris

Bahoma London

—0 votes

Rank #75,084 WoodyWhite Floral

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55%scent match

Closely related

2 wins

Lumière de Venise

Chabaud Maison de Parfum

3.6583 votes

Rank #16,763 CitrusWoody

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Quick verdict

Which one should you pick?

Lumière de Venise takes 2 of 3 categories.

Black Orris
Choose it for a woody and white floral character. Wins on longevity. Best in spring, day or night wear.
Lumière de Venise
Choose it for a citrus and woody character. Wins on sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in spring, daytime wear.

Black Orris1/3

Lumière de Venise2/3

Ratings & consensus: Not scored
Community sentiment: Not scored
Longevity: Black Orris
Sillage & projection: Lumière de Venise
Value for money: Not scored
Versatility: Not scored
Note pyramid (duration): Not scored
Fragranxe ranking: Lumière de Venise

Head-to-head breakdown

Every category side by side, with the winner called out.

Fragrance

Black OrrisBahoma London

Lumière de VeniseChabaud Maison de Parfum

Winner

Ratings & consensus

Average rating and ownership split

—/ 5 · 0 votes

Have 0%Had 11%Want 89%

3.65/ 5 · 83 votes

Have 30%Had 18%Want 53%

Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count

Community sentiment

How voters split from love to hate

Not enough votes yet

28%Love

37%Like

10%Ok

23%Dislike

2%Hate

83 votes

Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)

Longevity & sillage

0–100 community performance scores

⏱ Longevity100

〰 Sillage50

♥ Love / hateN/A

⏱ Longevity65

〰 Sillage65

♥ Love / hate66

Category winners

LongevityBlack Orris

SillageLumière de Venise

Value for money

How fairly priced voters find it

¤ Price valueN/A

¤ Price value50

Category winnerNot enough dataBest value score

Main accords

Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by both

woody100%

white floral92%

powdery84%

animalic77%

warm spicy69%

citrus61%

citrus100%

woody92%

patchouli84%

fruity77%

warm spicy69%

white floral61%

Scent match55%Closely related · both woody, citrus and white floral

Note pyramid (duration)

Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = shared

Top

BergamotLemonPeachCuminClovesNutmeg

Heart

Orris RootVioletRaspberryJasmineWhite FlowersOrange Blossom

Base

LeatherPatchouliOakmossWoody NotesSandalwoodBenzoinAnimal notesTonka Bean

Top15-30 mins

GrapefruitBergamot

Heart2-4 hrs

PeachJasmineRoseViolet

Base6-8 hrs

PatchouliTonka BeanWoody NotesOakmossSandalwood

InformationalShared notesBergamot, Peach, Violet and Jasmine. Durations are only published for Lumière de Venise, so this is not scored.

Seasons & time of day

Relative to each fragrance's best season

Spring100

Summer50

Fall100

Winter100

Day100

Night100

Spring100

Summer32

Fall77

Winter41

Day100

Night57

Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round

Who wears it

Gender appeal votes

Not enough votes yet

Men12

Unisex19

Women69

Work 38%Casual 32%Date 19%Party 11%

InformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored

Ranking & credits

Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launch

Overall rank#75,084

PerfumerNot listed

Launched—

Reviews1

Overall rank#16,763

PerfumerSophie Chabaud

Launched—

Reviews10

Category winnerLumière de VeniseHigher overall rank

In a nutshell

Description & review snapshot

Black Orris by Bahoma London offers a moody, intricate take on powdery and woody notes. It settles into a complex blend of patchouli, leather, and spices that behaves differently depending on the wearer. This fragrance works best for those who prefer an introspective, textured scent for cool autumn evenings, offering …

Reviews →

Lumière de Venise opens with a sharp burst of bitter grapefruit and zesty bergamot. The citrus sparkles immediately. Within ten minutes, the initial solvent lift settles into a gentle heart of velvet peach, clean jasmine, and powdery violet petals. It feels crisp and light. As the drydown approaches, earthy patchouli …

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InformationalRead bothTaste is personal

How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.

Common questions

Straight answers from the data above.

Which lasts longer, Black Orris or Lumière de Venise?

Black Orris lasts longest (Black Orris 100/100, Lumière de Venise 65/100), based on community performance votes.

Which projects more, Black Orris or Lumière de Venise?

Lumière de Venise projects furthest (Lumière de Venise 65/100, Black Orris 50/100), based on community performance votes.

Do Black Orris and Lumière de Venise smell similar?

Closely related: a 55% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share woody, citrus and white floral accords. Common notes include Bergamot, Peach, Violet and Jasmine.

Is Black Orris or Lumière de Venise better for summer or winter?

Black Orris suits day or night wear; Lumière de Venise suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.

What are the notes in Black Orris and Lumière de Venise?

Black Orris has top notes of Bergamot, Lemon, Peach and Cumin, heart notes of Orris Root, Violet, Raspberry and Jasmine, a base of Leather, Patchouli, Oakmoss and Woody Notes. Lumière de Venise has top notes of Grapefruit and Bergamot, heart notes of Peach, Jasmine, Rose and Violet, a base of Patchouli, Tonka Bean, Woody Notes and Oakmoss.