Dark Black vs Timur
Notes, accords, longevity, sillage, seasons and community ratings, side by side.
54%scent match
Some overlap
Quick verdict
Which one should you pick?
Timur takes 3 of 4 categories.
Dark BlackChoose it for a citrus and floral character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear.
TimurChoose it for a warm spicy and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Dark Black1/4
Timur3/4
- Ratings & consensus
- Not scored
- Community sentiment
- Not scored
- Longevity
- Timur
- Sillage & projection
- Timur
- Value for money
- Dark Black
- Versatility
- Not scored
- Note pyramid (duration)
- Not scored
- Fragranxe ranking
- Timur
Head-to-head breakdown
Every category side by side, with the winner called out.
Fragrance
Dark BlackLC WaikikiTimurPheboWinner
Ratings & consensus
Average rating and ownership split4.75/ 5 · 8 votes
Have 50%Had 14%Want 36%
3.85/ 5 · 65 votes
Have 63%Had 21%Want 15%
Category winnerNot enough dataRating weighted by vote count
Community sentiment
How voters split from love to hate75%Love
25%Like
0%Ok
0%Dislike
0%Hate
8 votes · too few to score
28%Love
45%Like
15%Ok
9%Dislike
3%Hate
65 votes
Category winnerNot enough dataMost positive mix (25+ votes)
Longevity & sillage
0–100 community performance scores
Category winners
LongevityTimur
SillageTimur
Value for money
How fairly priced voters find itCategory winnerDark BlackBest value score
Main accords
Strength of each scent family · outlined = shared by bothcitrus100%
floral92%
aromatic84%
amber77%
white floral69%
warm spicy61%
warm spicy100%
fresh spicy92%
aromatic84%
woody77%
citrus69%
floral61%
Scent match54%Some overlap · both citrus, aromatic and warm spicy
Note pyramid (duration)
Top, heart and base, with how long each lasts when known · gold = sharedTop15 to 30 minutes
GrapefruitBergamotCardamom
Heart1 to 2 hours
MagnoliaJasmineFreesia
Base2 to 4 hours
White MuskVetiverAmber
Top
PepperCardamomGrapefruit
Heart
MagnoliaLavenderCashmere Wood
Base
PatchouliVetiverAmber
InformationalShared notesGrapefruit, Cardamom, Magnolia and Vetiver. Durations are only published for Dark Black, so this is not scored.
Seasons & time of day
Relative to each fragrance's best seasonSpring80
Summer100
Fall40
Winter20
Day100
Night60
Spring92
Summer42
Fall100
Winter75
Day100
Night85
Category winnerNot enough dataMost year-round
Who wears it
Gender appeal votesInformationalProfile onlyAudience is not scored
Ranking & credits
Fragranxe overall rank, nose and launchOverall rank#30,284
PerfumerNot listed
Launched—
Reviews2
Overall rank#27,879
PerfumerSerge Majoullier
Launched—
Reviews2
Category winnerTimurHigher overall rank
In a nutshell
Description & review snapshotDark Black by LC Waikiki is a fresh citrus and floral fragrance anchored by warm spice and clean woods. The scent opens with a sharp burst of grapefruit and bergamot, balanced by the zesty kick of cardamom. As the initial sharpness settles, a heart of magnolia, jasmine, and freesia brings a clean floral body that keep…
Reviews →Phebo Timur opens with a sharp snap of Nepalese Timur pepper and bitter grapefruit, backed by a cool kick of green cardamom. As the initial citrus sparkle settles on skin, magnolia and lavender soften the top-heavy spice before revealing a smooth core of cashmere wood. The dry down turns distinctly woody and earthy th…
Reviews →InformationalRead bothTaste is personal
How we score: ratings blend public fragrance ratings with Fragranxe member votes; longevity, sillage, value and sentiment are community vote scores, and season bars are relative to each fragrance's strongest season. Categories with too little data are shown but not scored. The scent match weighs accord overlap (60%) and shared notes (40%). More in the FAQ.
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Common questions
Straight answers from the data above.
Which is better, Dark Black or Timur?
Timur takes 3 of 4 categories. Dark Black is rated 4.75/5 from 8 votes; Timur is rated 3.85/5 from 65 votes. Choose Dark Black for a citrus and floral character. Wins on value for money. Best in summer, daytime wear. Choose Timur for a warm spicy and fresh spicy character. Wins on longevity, sillage & projection and fragranxe ranking. Best in fall, daytime wear.
Which lasts longer, Dark Black or Timur?
They last about the same: Timur 59/100, Dark Black 57/100 for longevity in community votes.
Which projects more, Dark Black or Timur?
Projection is very close: Timur 51/100, Dark Black 50/100 for sillage.
Do Dark Black and Timur smell similar?
Some overlap: a 54% scent match on Fragranxe. Both share citrus, aromatic and warm spicy accords. Common notes include Grapefruit, Cardamom, Magnolia and Vetiver.
Is Dark Black or Timur better for summer or winter?
Dark Black suits daytime wear; Timur suits daytime wear. Based on community season votes.
What are the notes in Dark Black and Timur?
Dark Black has top notes of Grapefruit, Bergamot and Cardamom, heart notes of Magnolia, Jasmine and Freesia, a base of White Musk, Vetiver and Amber. Timur has top notes of Pepper, Cardamom and Grapefruit, heart notes of Magnolia, Lavender and Cashmere Wood, a base of Patchouli, Vetiver and Amber.
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